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Jan 29, 2025

OpenAI claims China’s DeepSeek used its model for training

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  1. OpenAI claims China’s DeepSeek used its model for training
  2. Alibaba brings Qwen 2.5-Max to compete with DeepSeek V3
  3. ChatGPT Gov launched for U.S. government agencies
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1. OpenAI claims China’s DeepSeek used its model for training

  • Some evidence of “distillation,” OpenAI said amid the growing popularity of DeepSeek in the U.S.

  • Tue.: White House AI czar David Sacks alleged “substantial evidence” that DeepSeek “distilled the knowledge out of OpenAI models.”

  • Microsoft said to be probing if DeepSeek improperly obtained OpenAI’s data.

  • Common practice among startups and academics to use outputs from commercial LLMs to train another model, experts said.

  • Separately, the U.S. Navy has banned DeepSeek over “potential security and ethical concerns.”

3. Alibaba releases Qwen 2.5-Max, new large MoE LLM competing with DeepSeek V3

Qwen 2.5-Max outperformed the open-weight DeepSeek V3 and Meta’s Llama 3.1-405B and OpenAI’s GPT-4o across benchmarks shared by Alibaba:

X: Qwen.

  • Trained on over 20T tokens.

  • Based on the Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) architecture, which requires fewer compute resources than a traditional LLM.

  • Available through Alibaba Cloud’s API services.

  • Also, accessible through Qwen Chat and Hugging Face Spaces.

Like other Chinese AI models, Qwen 2.5-Max has censored outputs critical of the Chinese government

Qwen Chat.

4. ChatGPT Gov launched for U.S. government agencies

X: Kevin Weil (OpenAI CPO).

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